I live in South Korea on a military base, most people here seem to think its a mixture. Mostly staged but with the occassional infusion of genuine grief. "Dear Leader" is a GOD to them. They are isolated and brainwashed DAILY. Its so bad, I was told, that if a North Korean makes it across the border alive, they are automatically given South Korean citizenship. Everything is under the control of the powers that be....
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News Reports of Distraught North Koreans
by Band on the Run inthis morning on gma they showed film reports from north korea.
the people were beyond grief.
when the anchor queried the expert as to whether this was pure propoganda, the expert said no.
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JW FAMOUS CLICHE SAYINGS
by strymeckirules inwhat saying made it all around the country?.
the ones that were passed around, word of mouth.. for example.
"donations basis proves jehovah is behind the work!".
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"What a timely and refreshing/encouraging talk Brother Monotone."
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Have Jehovah's Witnesses (The WTBTS) taken the Best Years of your life?
by Hairyhegoat inhaving been a born in for 44 years i can say yes to this question.
my 2 sisters and 1 brother and my dad have nothing to do with my family now we have made our stand against the jw's.
i was always downtrodden at school for been a jw.
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But, that just means I have a lot to make up for, and I'm going to enjoy it!
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Have Jehovah's Witnesses (The WTBTS) taken the Best Years of your life?
by Hairyhegoat inhaving been a born in for 44 years i can say yes to this question.
my 2 sisters and 1 brother and my dad have nothing to do with my family now we have made our stand against the jw's.
i was always downtrodden at school for been a jw.
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I got out fairly quickly, thanks to a very courageous man who was willing to dive in head first to drag me out of there, even if it meant cracking his skull on the shallow JW pool - so I can't begin to relate to some of the long term, several decades long stories some of you relate. But I do at times feel that it did take the better part of my years. I won't get into a pity party but I'll just say my childhood, youth and young adulthood were not pleasant, and the things that could've made it more enjoyable were stolen from me... There are the small things, the parties, the dances, dating... Never experienced those... then there are the larger things...So many past times and interests I could have pursued, so many good friends I could have made but didn't because they were worldly. So much time I wasted trying to convince others of a belief system that I would come to reject. So much charity I could have done/given but didn't....
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Please Post Reasons For Not Believing The Witnesses Have The "Truth" Anymore
by minimus ini see a few want to believe in the watchtower's view of bible prophecy, scriptural understandings and the view that the "anointed remnant" dispense the "spiritual food at the proper time".. how would you refute those views?.
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I do not have time to go through the pages and see if this has already been mentioned so I will just put it out there;
"the view that the "anointed remnant" dispense the "spiritual food at the proper time"."
Its really very simple to if not convince them they are wrong on this front, then at least get them to think about it. I know it turned my mother in knots...
The anointed remnant are the 144,000. The ones who partake. They are supposed to be the "faithful and discreet slave" "dispensing spiritual food at the proper time"
But the 144,000 are not neccesarrily a part of the Governing Body or writing committee. Even if they are, the "anointed" are not consulted on new light, policy or spiritual truths....
The Watchtower has even admitted that they do not "keep track" of who is partaking, or who is "of the anointed"
So how exactly are the "anointed" or "fds" dispensing that spiritual food?
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Born ins..Were You Forced to Be a JW Growing Up?
by LostGeneration inmyth: parents who are jehovahs witnesses.
force their children to follow their faith.. fact:witness parents strive to inculcate love.
for god in their offspring, just as the bible.
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Posted before I reached the end of the thread and realized LostGeneration said the same thing. Hat tip to you!
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Born ins..Were You Forced to Be a JW Growing Up?
by LostGeneration inmyth: parents who are jehovahs witnesses.
force their children to follow their faith.. fact:witness parents strive to inculcate love.
for god in their offspring, just as the bible.
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As another thought, do you notice how they maneuvered around this? They present it in a myth and fact but it deal with two separate ideas.
The "myth" is that JW parents force their children to take part in the religion. Then the supposed refutation says
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they realize that when a child becomes
an adult, he or she will make a personal
choice with regard to worship.When a child BECOMES AN ADULT.
So really, they didn't refute the myth at all just danced around it by saying "when the child is an adult he can decide" when that was not the question in the first place.
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Born ins..Were You Forced to Be a JW Growing Up?
by LostGeneration inmyth: parents who are jehovahs witnesses.
force their children to follow their faith.. fact:witness parents strive to inculcate love.
for god in their offspring, just as the bible.
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I wasn't exactly born in, but both my sisters were. My parents converted when I was about three. I guess it all depends on how the word forced is being viewed. I certainly didn't get a choice on whether or not to attend the meetings, or take part in the family book studies, or decide for myself whether I believed any of it. I lost interest and argued with them that I didn't want to go to the meetings, no I would not speak with the Elders, and no I would not have a bible study with another sister. Eventually they stopped trying to drag me to the car...Then when I finally left for good, they reacted like it was a completely spontaneous outcome... Go figure.
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JW's and Chronic Fatigue Syndrone!
by cornish inchronic fatigue syndrone, m e, yuppie flu.
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i dont know if anyone else has noticed the alarming number of jws who claim to suffer from chronic fatigue syndrone,i mean hear in cornwall there tend to be several sufferers in every congregation,outside the jws out of the many people i know i dont know anyone,although there are obviosly many outside the jws who suffer this illness,percentage wise it seems that jws have a much,much larger occorance of the illness.. for example my brother in law has not worked and been living on invalidity benefits for more than 10 years since his mid twenties,his brother is also in the same boat, an m.e sufferer.. i wonder if anyone has looked into this a bit more?
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Physical, mental, emotional disorders/problems in general seems to be an issue among Jehovah's Witnesses.
My mother had a lot of mental/emotional issues. Clinical depression, anxiety, bipolar...I knew several sisters with Chronic Fatigue... anger management, you name it.
So much for happiest people on earth.
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Christmas traditions
by tec ini thought it would be nice to start a thread with some of your favorite christmas traditions... especially for those who are just beginning to celebrate christmas.
we open a gift on christmas eve.
when i was a kid, it was always a new pair of pajamas.
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I've only been celebrating Christmas for about 3 years so EVERYTHING is kind of a "favorite tradition" lol. I've taken to baking cookies, desserts and making my own candies, decorated pretzyls to give to people as gifts. Its fun for me, and they enjoy the treats! Every year my husband and I host a Christmas eve dinner and invite all the single or unaccompanied soldiers we can and I make a breakfast pie every Christmas morning. There's also alot of charities that come up I like to do, the Marine's toys for tots, a food and toy drive for the local orphanage, stuffing stockings for the soldiers who are alone on post... Then every year, my husband and I take a walk at night around post and enjoy the quiet, the snow (if we're lucky) and the beautiful Christmas lights!